1. To force someone to do or say what one believes is right but the other person believes is wrong, far from promoting civil liberty, actually takes away the civil liberty of others. Whereas this is sometimes necessary, it must only be done when it is absolutely necessary.
2. Whereas it should be recognized that discrimination against people is always unacceptable for certain things (for example with regard to race or ethnicity), in other situations it can be acceptable at times but unacceptable at other times (for example with regard to sex or sexual orientation, see note below), and should always be accepted in some cases (as in denying the liberty of murderers, rapists, pedophiles, drunk-drivers and other duly-convicted criminals, regardless of color, or in allowing people to form private associations and determine the membership qualifications and requirements for such).
3. Whereas civil rights legislation sometimes is necessary to counter illegitimate discrimination (as with racial discrimination in the 1960’s in the U.S. and elsewhere today), it should be recognized that laws in themselves don’t usually change people’s minds. And for people to change their behavior requires them to change their thinking. This change in people’s thinking is the real reason for the real progress we have made in racial and religious relations since the 1960’s.
4. The United States of America was not set up either to be a Christian or a secular nation, but a nation which sought to guarantee “liberty and justice for all”, both religious and non-religious, as far as this is possible. This liberty must include the right of both religious and non-religious people to do, say and think according to their beliefs both in private and publicly. When there are conflicts as a result of this “free-exercise” of religious or secular beliefs (as there inevitably will be), every effort must be made to find compromises which do not violate the freedom of conscience of all parties.
5. The United States of America was not set up to be a nation in which the government was to rule over all aspects of people’s lives, but a nation in which a limited amount of government, with balanced and separated powers “of the People, by the People and for the People” would protect and promote both the personal and economic liberty of all from tyranny, whether from external or internal threats.
Are you a true Libertarian? Sadly, organizations like the ACLU and Americans United for Separation of Church and State (AU) often fight against the liberty of those who dissent from what is regarded as “politically correct” today. Insofar as they do so, they promote tyranny rather than liberty. A true Libertarian must always allow others “the right to be wrong” with respect to their own beliefs and values.
I welcome discussion of this with anyone willing to have a reasonable, respectful discussion. But if you aren’t willing to do so and, furthermore, would exclude this discussion and marginalize anyone who would raise these issues, then you are acting like a tyrant, not a freedom-loving libertarian.
Christopher Andrus
Note to point 2: It’s wrong not to give women the same opportunities as men (and vice-versa) in most cases. But it’s right for the Women’s National Basketball Association to ban male players. And it’s right to protect people from being persecuted for their private, consensual behavior. But it’s wrong to persecute people for not approving of and to require them to support behavior which they view as wrong and destructive. The latter is wrong because it can’t be demonstrated that sexual orientation is akin to race as a natural, unchangeable characteristic. Indeed, it can be shown that sexual orientations can change in a variety of ways.
Hey Chris its Michael we met on the hill yesterday. Hope you’re doing well let’s connect really interested in doing some outreach as well!
Sounds great. You never know when and where you might meet someone whom you need to meet in God’s providence. I don’t wish to share my cell# on this board, so please send your contact information to chrisa@christianityistrue.org so that we can talk about it.
You don’t sound very christian. Very judgmental.
You appear to have fallen for a common fallacy today: that “It’s wrong to judge others.” You need to think about this statement a little. This statement in itself is a judgment! We all judge the actions and words of others constantly. We simply couldn’t get along in the world without doing so. Jesus didn’t say that we shouldn’t judge. You need to read “Judge not” in context (Matthew 6). Jesus said that when we judge we must judge equitably, meaning that we must be willing to be judged by the same standards with which we judge others. This is just another way of stating the Golden Rule.
We must judge the words and actions of others, lest we be led in bad directions. But it’s wrong for us to judge others as bad people who deserve eternal punishment. For, we don’t know the hearts of other people and we also don’t know what God is doing with other people. There are bad people whom God will condemn in Hell. But, only God knows who they are. Thus, Christians are called encourage people to repent of their sins, as we have (especially our root sin of denying our Creator, Sustainer and Provider), and to receive God’s gifts of forgiveness, a clear conscience, confidence in God’s provision in this world and the sure promise of immeasurable blessings in Heaven.